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today at college campuses across the country as protest against the war in gaza spread at major universities in indiana, state police and riot gear carrying shields and batons were seeing clashing with are you bloomington students at an encampment. they're on campus. police say they arrested at least 23 people after they ignored six verbal warnings to remove the encampment and leaves the area. the university said it quote, encourages and respects free speech, including the right to peacefully protest. but added the school members are expected to fall a university policy policy and state law in boston school officials at northeastern university say campus operations have quote, returned to normal after police detained about 100 people, there this morning and insert as across the country, want their schools to stand against what they believe are acts of genocide being committed against the palestinian people in gaza. but some jewish students worry that the protests are becoming anti-semitic, leading to harassment. and they fear for their safety on campus. we are covering bring this from

college campuses all across the country. cnn's polo sandoval is live outside columbia university in new york epicenter of these protests polo, let's go first to you. and what you're seeing today just give there's any sign that they don't expect any major demonstration says off the columbia campus, it's so loud sounds of police barricades being clear appeared out of the area here as they don't expect anything major on the sidewalks. >> similar to what we saw play out in the last several days. in fact, some tempers rising a couple of days ago here on the sidewalk off-campus. on the campus. and i'd update a visit there just a couple of just a few moments ago. it is very quiet at the encampment continues. and i had an opportunity to hear from some for the organizers just yesterday and they do say that those negotiations that are about seven days in ir so between pro-palestinian student protesters and columbia university are at an impasse at least for now. that is because they cannot seem to find any common ground. and what is the main priority demand for these

students that have set up that in cabinet for about a week half now, which is divestment from companies associated with or at least with some israeli connections, they have however, seen some progress on at least two other fronts. it isn't transparency in terms of the investments that the university is making. and also in terms of trying to convince the university to issue a statement possibly from the president university addressing the incident from last week where they when they asked the nypd to step onto campus and to help clear on in cabinet that we all know. simply came back up which now has triggered other universities throughout the country. the student organizers, they have not received any assurances from the university that they will not once again turned to again, y pd, though they say that they are prepared for that should that happen, but i have to tell you after spending again a couple of hours on campus, a few moments ago, jessica, there was no sign that that is imminent, but there is certainly some uncertainty on campus because you do have campus workers preparing for commensurate and a couple of weeks time. and you hear from

some of those students, especially those who are not acting sibley involved the native protests were wondering if their commencement will move forward, which again does far there doesn't seem to be indication that that that will change all right, polo sandoval for us in new york city. let's go now to rafael romo, who's live outside emory university in atlanta. and that's a different scene. there today. what what are you seeing? >> yeah, jessica, very different. especially if you compare it to what happened here on thursday, the situation here at emory university has been calm so far. this weekend, but that doesn't mean repercussions about the violent arrest on thursday are over. we took a look earlier at the university quad and it was empty but you can still see messages written with chalk on sidewalks saying things like long lift palestine and ceasefire. now after clashes with police resulted in multiple erez on thursday, including at least one emory university professor. there were protests once again here friday. but they were more

peaceful now, also friday, emory tenured faculty, faculty gathered on campus to express concern. spell thursday's violent arrest and the fact there were three police agencies here on campus. they were discussing a motion for a no-confidence vote of emory university precedent, gregory fem visit that will take play place next week earlier today, i had an opportunity to talk to martin berg. he said, third year law student graduating in three weeks who was arrested on thursday and released friday afternoon. he told us even inside of the cab county jail, the conversation continued to focus on the situation in gaza that's, why we were there and that's what we talked about when we were in jail, when we were there sitting and talking about why we were there talking about if we regretted it, none of us did we talked about how the people who are dying in gaza right now, the tens of thousands of men, women, mothers, fathers, and children are being displaced and

jessica, emory university precedent family said in a statement that some of those participating in the protests were highly organized outside protestors, who arrived on campus in vance to construct an encampment that was a position berg said he strongly disagreed with in the same statement femoris. >> femoris also said the following. and here i quote, as emory community members continued to express themselves and protests we are committed to working with students and faculty, open expression of servers and the epd to facilitate their peaceful expression. however, we will not tolerate vandalism, violence, or any attempt to disrupt our campus through the construction of un campus? yes, as you can see, very different positions about what happened here. now, back to you. >> all right, rafael romel forest, they are at emory university. let's go west. nauta camila bernal, who was in los angeles outside of the university of southern california, california, and kamila, they have canceled

their there their main stage commencement around to all of this. what are you hearing today yeah. >> so i'm actually at ucla, but at usc, the commencement ceremony has been canceled for safety reasons. of course, this week, things got violent, people got arrested, and now they have said that they're going to continue to try to figure out what other events they can have for the graduating class of 2024, which i'll remind you, did not have a graduation in 2020 when they're graduating from high school. now, here at ucla, things are peaceful, but you are seeing the encampment. there is a large portion of the university that is currently full of tents and a lot of the students here say that they're not going to leave. it's very similar demands that we were hearing from my colleague polo in new york. it is divestment. it is students who say they want disclosure of where the money in the university is going to and they say they're going to continue to be here in this encampment for as long as it takes. now, i also want to

say that even though they they say there will continue to be here, they're also saying they're going to be peaceful we do not know exactly how long they want to be here, but they say that they're going to continue despite even tomorrow having a counter protesters here. that's what scheduled at ucla tomorrow. and so again, as of now, things have remained peaceful, but there are some people outside of the encampment that i wouldn't always describe as peaceful. but for the most part, things have remained calm. i want you to listen to what one of the grad students here had to we have a lot of demands. >> first and foremost, we are here also to make palestine unavoidable. >> we know business as usual, we can knock can you every day when there's a genocide happening in gaza. and so we're here to also show that we need to keep continuing to talk about it. it's not about are encampment are says college because it universities it's about them always now, here at ucla, we have not seen any

arrest. >> the university policy is that they are not going to call police officers unless they feel that the safety of the students is in dangerous. so what you're seeing now is just at security guards that are walking around and riding around in bicycles to try to keep the peace and to try to make sure that everyone is safe in this area. but again, no one has been arrested here at ucla and they say that anyone that wants to go inside has to sign up to go inside of the encampment and they have to agree to some of the rules including not engaging with counter protesters. so we'll see how things developed throughout the day and especially tomorrow as that counter-protests is expected here. but as of now, things have been peaceful. jessica. >> all right. camila bernal for us. thanks so much for that reporting and joining us now is president and ceo of the jewish campus organization. hello. adam leeman. adam, thanks so much for being here with us. >> we appreciate it. >> there are fears that these protests are spreading antisemitism and we know that some jewish students have said they feel unsafe on their own

campus. >> we also know that there are some jewish groups at some of these holes that are calling for a ceasefire in gaza what are you hearing from the students you're talking too? >> you? thank you, jessica, i was with a group of columbia students just yesterday and every single one of them expressed here for their safety and it's not based on theoretical concern we've had students who've been stabbed in the eye with a palestinian flag at yale, we have had students who have been pushed to have been hit, who had been shoved in connection with these protests. and the language of the protests. while sometimes peaceful, is often not peaceful, it's often expressed in terms of the violin elimination of the state of israel, in terms of removing all zionists from those campuses and zionist from where we stand as hill as someone who believes from the right of self-determination for the jewish people in our ancestral homelands. so if you're a jewish student who is hearing a threats to zionists or kill

designers as a columbia student recorded on his own instagram account, or you're seeing students who are being physically assaulted or followed back to their dorm rooms. of course, their concern and i should point out that since october 7, we've recorded more than 1,400 instances of hate speech, of assault, of vandalism, so that the campus climate is boiling and it really is creating a and intolerable situation for so many jewish students. >> and so how do you think these schools should proceed? how can they make sure their balancing? all voices being heard in the sense that if you are peacefully protesting, that you're not incorporating hate speech that is allowed to happen, but also protecting the safety of these jewish students who say they don't, they don't feel safe right now. >> yeah. and it's really about protecting all students because when these protests or encampments spin out of control, that's disruptive for the entire campus community. so

in terms of how universities can and should approach it we're big fans of prison speech our whole tradition at hillel and in judaism promotes dialogue what we need is four universities to reassert control over their campuses. that means they've all tried to implement what are known as time, place, and manner restrictions so that there are spaces and times for protest and protesters frankly, under principles of free speech can effectively say what they want to say. however, irrational were sometimes aggressive, it can be, but the protesters in this moment are running roughshod over the basic rules that have been provided for all students from whatever back ground and in doing so, they have to face consequences. so that means we really do believe to promote safety, universities need to eliminate encampments when they are creating safety risk number two, students who are so clearly embracing lead

violating rules and policies should be suspended or expelled if they continue to do so in a way that threatens other students and finally, we need universities to reinvest in educating students and promoting dialogue in sitting with students at columbia yesterday, they are eager to talk about differences. they are eager to support palestinian well-being as well as the well-being of israelis. but often, people should know that when they go to these encampments or when they go to students who are theoretically there to support palestinian rights. there's a policy of anti normalization. these protesters won't even talk to many jewish students because they are treating their dehumanizing them and demonizing them just by virtue of their jewish identity and belief in the right of the state of israel to exist how much of a sense do you get? you mentioned some of the things that have been said, comments about being anti-zionist about

education, and do some of these protesters that are saying things that begin to spill over into anti-semitism in those cases. again, some peaceful protesters and i've seen other instances where it's not as peaceful what in those cases where they're using that language, do you think they understand what they're really saying? there? >> yeah very sadly i do again, i'll just reference my meeting with columbia students yesterday they pointed out at these schools, these are bright young people who are getting access to top tier education sadly, they're literally reading out of a playbook from hezbollah, hamas, and iran. the chance are coming from national students for justice in palestine and it is not sadly, just about supporting the well-being of humanitarian aid in gaza. in fact, there have been, there's almost no active warfare being conducted. there. the playbook for hamas, iran, hezbollah, is all about the violent elimination of the state of israel. so sadly, i

think a lot of these students do know what they're saying and doing. and that's why it can feel so threatening and anti-semetic to jewish students who, as part of their core identity do feel affinity to the state of israel and do believe, in its right to exist adam leeman, thanks so much for joining us. >> we appreciate it thank you. close to 2 million americans are hunkering down for potentially dangerous tornadoes, as powerful tornadoes tear through the middle part of the country, flattening homes, tossing debris all across town riyadh saves new album is hey records who gets to say what country is call me country beyond, say a nashville's renaissance streaming exclusively on mac can the riva support your brain health? >> mary janet, hey eddie, know, fraser, franck. franck. bread. how are you?

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right tone with a number of issues foreign and domestic currently facing his ministration. >> every sabotage directs the center for politics at the university of virginia. any joins us live now, larry great to see you. thanks so much for being here. we're we're used to seeing president's make some jokes. >> likely their own expense. how are you expecting the president to approach tonight? i would expect him to show great vigor of the way he did in the state of the union address, so that the press doesn't write anymore. biden is too old stories tomorrow. >> but beyond that, it's a great opportunity to great forum for president to send all kinds of messages, not just comedic, but also serious and apparently the president wants to do that with respect to the decline of democracy and press freedoms around the world, this is a worldwide trend. >> it isn't just happening in the united states all the biden campaign just going on with his

appearances lately, they're branching out a little bit with respect to his media appearances, he's going on howard stern first for example, something maybe hillary clinton would refuse to do in 2016 what do you make of his team's media strategy so far because we can hear some groaning for sure inside the beltway that he's going outside of the beltway in a way to really connect and do interviews jessica, it's a long campaign and i would think that he will be giving interviews to virtually all major news organizations, who knows, maybe even the new york times. this fight all the, all the nastiness there. but he's got a long time to go. i think it's perfectly okay. in fact, it's advisable for him to reach out to organizations, news organizations that reach different parts of the electorate because whether we like it or not, there is no common media conversation in the united states anymore. people get their news and lots of different ways from lots of

different organizations and outlet you have to find a way to reach people where they are and where they're listening and watching it. >> so splintered. now, you're right, it's hard to reach everyone in one place. >> i also want to ask you about the idea that we're going to see president biden and president trump debate. >> it seemed like maybe maybe we wouldn't, we live in a world as you just kind of alluded to where so many of the political norms are just gone. >> but this week they both said they do want to debate one another. >> do you think will see that it come to fruition? >> it's the right thing to say. in april or may. but actually putting it together in particularly with donald trump is one of the two candidates i'm torn about and i've always favored debates i've studied every minute of the kennedy nixon debates, about 100 times each and of course, that elected john f. kennedy. i don't think there's any question about it, but then we went to three cycles, 1964,

1968, 1972 without any presidential debates because the incumbents or front runners didn't want to elevate their challengers. well, it's a little different. in this case. it's really more away for a biden perhaps to limit the lies that may well be told by donald trump. and he's done it many times, and he didn't debate a single time in the republican primaries. he had some substantial opposition. they were good people running against him. no debates at all. and he also canceled one of the debates in 2020 with joe biden i think biden has plenty of justification for saying no if he does, it, maybe it's in his interest to debate and that we'll probably determine whether he does. trump's going to jump for jessica. >> no question. >> he needs that. he has. >> there's no safety belt on him.

>> he can say and do anything. and as we all know, there are no consequences yeah, it will be interesting to see how that unfolds at larry's have no, it's always great to hear hear your thoughts. we really appreciate it. >> thank you, jessica beyond the guest of honor, the white house correspondents dinner is always a big red carpet event here in the nation's capital as well. >> and cnn's harry enten is joining us now on the red carpet get hairy. you got any friends there yet you know, it's i would say it's the 1980s strike back just before i got here, andrew mccarthy of course, was in all those brat pack films was on on the red carpet, standing to my right. >> in fact, right now as molly ring walled, i don't know if i should tell her that i had a major crush on her in pretty in pink. so the fact is at this particular point, yes, things are just getting going a little bit. but with molly ring walled off to my right i feel like it's it's gonna be a hot evening that's all i can say about that. >> a hot evening, it's just beginning, so we're going to see you next time we check in

with you ever, it's probably going to be far more people behind you what what's the vibe there? what are people expecting to hear from the president tonight yeah. >> look, i think the president, like most presidents who come out is going to crack a few jokes. obviously he's going to crack a few jokes about donald trump. obviously, the fact that right now he's on trial in new york. i know from the reporting that his team has been whipping up some good jokes. they rant about four hours over the past few days, whipping up some jokes. so look, i think it's gonna be a funny time president biden last year was able to gin up some laughs. so i don't expect it to be any different this year. of course, the real question is, is this going to be the last time he's laughing as president with the election coming november, we'll just have to wait and see on that one absolutely. >> and of course, before i let you go you're numbers guy. and you have always looked you look at all the numbers. does history suggest that a speech at a correspondents dinner can actually do anything substantial, move polls in any way you know, i was looking at

the questions that we're said to me before this segment. >> i saw that one whoever wrote that up is quite clever. it made me laugh. no, there's no example at the white house correspondents dinner, speeches, there can make a difference. most folks aren't watching it. folks who are watching it, or nerds like you and me, jessica. but i think it's still going to be a fun time either can't move the poles, but at the end of the day, we're going to wait and say, because history is always history, it's not always protective of the future sure. and maybe this year will be the year in which the jokes told that this white house correspondents dinner actually do move the policy on that one? no, just yeah. while we will wait and see, you do think back to when brock taco bomber was taunting donald trump, didn't move a poll, but it did maybe shift history a little bit. >> harry enten, we will check back in with you. good to see you nice to see you. >> former president trump's spending all week in court for his hush money trial, but he's still faces three other cases. this is ahead. the looming

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investigation into former president donald trump could be in jeopardy. >> the supreme court appears poised to delay the election subversion trial even further. after hearing arguments on whether presidents have total unity while in office trump and his team argue, yes, presidents do. and they argue that's why he should not face any charges in this federal criminal case against him. much of wednesday's arguments focused on the difference between official acts conducted by a president versus private ones if the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or order someone to assassinate him is that within his official acts that for which he can get immunity? it would depend on the hypothetical that we can see that could well be an official. >> if a president cells nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary is that immune? that sounds like similar to the bribery

example, likely not immune. now, if it's structured as an official that you would have to be impeached and convicted here to discuss this further, is law professor at loyola law school, jessica levinson. >> she's also the host of the podcast, passing judgment jessica, great to have you on. thanks so much for being with us. just first off, what do you make of this week's arguments at the supreme court? we listened to a few of them there is absolutely fascinating for almost three hours. you heard the justices really struggled with where to put this line when it comes to presidential immunity from criminal prosecution. and while i think you did see division genes in the court, i heard some agreement that basically neither side was going to win completely, that there would not be a finding of absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts, which is what trump's team wants and there probably would be a middle ground, meaning not exactly what special counsel smith wants i heard them really

searching and think you're exactly right to highlight those quotes that talk about the line between official acts in private acts. i heard them really searching, trying to figure out, well, how do we draw that line? >> so how difficult is that, that question of what constitution an official act? and if it gets tossed to a lower court and decide how much of a delay could we expect in this special counsel case? >> so i guess i'll answer the last part first, which is i don't think this case is going to trial before the election. i think that's what everybody is asking and it's very unlikely, in part because let's get to the first part of the question which is that i think the court is likely to lay out a new standard for how we determine when an act is an official act and entitled to immunity and when an act is a private act and it's not entitled to any immunity that could then go back to the trial court, judge. judge chutkan and she would have to apply that standard to the facts at issue in the complaint in the case pending before the former president and

then the party who doesn't like her ruling, they could then go back up to the dc circuit court of appeals. i mean, we could talk about what exactly that ruling might look like. i do think it's a complicated issue for the court and they're trying to figure out what exactly falls within that bucket of official acts but i think what everybody is asking is how long will it take? and the answer is, i think it is extremely unlikely we would see a trial before november yeah. michael dreeben, an attorney for the justice department, noted to the justices that another way to frame this argument is to ask whether the rule of law applies to the president do you think that's a fair way to frame this case well, i certainly think it is a favorable frame to him what he's trying to get at is to say it shouldn't it be that we look back to our basic principle that no person is above the law, that the rule of law applies equally to all of us i think that is compelling but the truth is that there is

supreme court precedent that says in the civil context that we do treat president's differently. >> now, we've never been here, we've never had an answer for the criminal context but i think well, that broad statement is really appealing what the supreme court's really doing is going one step below that and saying, but there is actually something different in their view about the president. and they're trying to craft a decision that balances the rule of law well, also balancing respect for executive duties. and frankly, what you've heard a lot is the fear that if they say that there is no immunity, then criminal prosecutions could be used as a weapon against future presidents and future ex-president's and trump's attorney john sauer, acknowledged that some of the alleged conduct supporting the criminal charges against the former president or private when he was asked about trump's phone call to the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. >> he said that was priced private in doing so, did he

give any credence to jack smith's case here are and i think a broader question two is, are they just trying to delay this case as long as possible? >> well, let's be clear. i think the answers that last part is yes, they are trying to delay this case as long as possible, not just this case, of course, all the other cases pending against the foreign present and they've one that i mean, we're talking about supreme court arguments at the end of april. we're not going to see a decision likely until the end of june and, as we said, we don't think that we're going to have this trial. so in this case, whatever happens with respect to the immunity standard, it's a win for the former president. now, in terms of that concession of yes, we understand john sauer saying there are private acts here i think that's really just an acknowledgment of what judge chutkan, the trial court judge, had already said. and frankly, what we can all see, which is not everything that forms the basis of this indictment can

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